Professor / Director Graduate Studies
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Arts Division
Professor / Director Graduate Studies
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Digital Arts and New Media
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By appointment, please email mweems@ucsc.edu
Theater Arts Center
In addition to teaching, Marianne Weems is a theater and opera director, and a co-founder of the award winning New York-based performance and media ensemble The Builders Association. With that company she has created a significant body of work at the forefront of combining media and performance. They have created many original large-scale productions and worked with some unexpected collaborators including the architects Diller + Scofidio, The National Center for Super Computing Applications, and the UK arts collective motiroti. Since 1994 they have toured domestically and internationally to over 95 venues. In New York, their work has been presented at Lincoln Center, The Kitchen, New York Theater Workshop, the Guggenheim Museum, the Whitney Museum among other venues, and their last six productions have premièred at The Brooklyn Academy of Music.
Weems has also worked in various creative roles with The Wooster Group, Susan Sontag, David Byrne, The V-Girls, and many others. She serves on the board of Art Matters, a modest but fierce foundation giving grants to individual artists. While working with Art Matters in the early ‘90’s Weems participated in founding Visual Aids, the National Campaign for Freedom of Expression, and the Arts Forward Fund.
Directing, Dramaturgy, Multimedia Theater, New Media, Performance Art, Devised Theater.
Directing, Dramaturgy, Multimedia Theater, New Media, Performance Art, Devised Theater.
Directing, Dramaturgy, Multimedia Theater, New Media, Performance Art, Devised Theater.
HONORS AND AWARDS
2017 Guggenheim Award: Guggenheim Fellow 2010 Yaddo Fellowship: Yaddo Colony Fellow, Saratoga Springs, NY 2010 Creative Campus Innovations Grant Program, funded by the Doris Duke Charitable Foundation, and the New England Foundation for the Arts’ National Theater pilot with lead funding from The Andrew W. Mellon Foundation. 2008 Featured Artist, European Capital of Culture 2007 Yaddo Fellowship: Yaddo Colony Fellow, Saratoga Springs, NY 2005 Yaddo Fellowship : Yaddo Colony Fellow, Saratoga Springs, NY 2004 OBIE Award, "Best Production" 2004 Fellowship: MacDowell Fellowship, Artist Residency Program, Peterborough, New Hampshire 2003 Fellowship: MacDowell Fellowship, Artist Residency Program, Peterborough, New Hampshire 2000 OBIE Award, "Best Production" 2000 Yaddo Fellowship: Yaddo Colony Fellow, Saratoga Springs, NY 1998 Yaddo Fellowship : Yaddo Colony Fellow, Saratoga Springs, NY 1993 Residency Fellowship: The Rockefeller Foundation Bellagio Center Residency Program
GRANTS
2019 - 2020 Lead Artist, National Endowment for The Arts 2019 - 2020 Lead Artist, The New York State Council on the Arts 2019 - 2020 Lead Artist, The New York City Department of Cultural Affairs 2019 - 2020 Lead Artist, Good Works Foundation 2019 - 2020 Lead Artist, Curtis W. McGraw Foundation 2019 - 2020 Lead Artist, The New York Community Trust COVID Impact Fund 2019 - 2020 Lead Artist, The Onassis Foundation 2019 - 2020 Lead Artist, Commissioning funds and in-kind production costs for Elements of Oz from New York University/Skirball Center. 2019 - 2020 Lead Artist, ARI 2019 - 2020 Lead Artist, COR 2018 Lead Artist, ARI 2018 Lead Artist, COR 2017 - 2018 Lead Artist, The New York City Department of Cultural Affairs 2017 - 2018 Lead Artist, The New York State Council on the Arts 2017 - 2018 Lead Artist, Good Works Foundation 2017 - 2018 Lead Artist, Curtis W. McGraw Foundation 2017 - 2018 Lead Artist, National Endowment for the Arts 2017 - 2018 Lead Artist, American Express 2017 - 2018 Lead Artist, Commissioning funds and in-kind production costs for Elements of Oz from 3LD Art&Technology Center. 2015 - 2016 Lead Artist, The National Endowment for the Arts 2015 - 2016 Lead Artist, The New York City Department of Cultural Affairs 2015 - 2016 Lead Artist, The New York State Council on the Arts 2015 - 2016 Lead Artist, Good Works Foundation 2015 - 2016 Lead Artist, Curtis W. McGraw Foundation 2015 Lead Artist, Commissioning funds and in-kind production support for Elements of Oz. Peak Performances at Montclair State University, Carnegie Mellon University’s IDEATE program, 3LD Art & Technology Center, BRIC Arts Center.
2013 - 2014 Lead Artist, Commissioning and in-kind production costs for Sontag: Reborn from New York Theater Workshop’s Artists’ Workshop Initiative, and the James and Sylvia Thayer Fellowship Program, and residency support from The Performing Garage, NYC. 2013 - 2014 Lead Artist, Commissioning funds for Sontag: Reborn Under the Radar Festival at the The Public Theater. 2013 - 2014 Lead Artist, Theater for The National Endowment for the Arts 2013 - 2014 Lead Artist, The New York City Department of Cultural Affairs 2013 - 2014 Lead Artist, The New York State Council on the Arts 2011 - 2012 Lead Artist, In-kind production costs for House/Divided Baryshnikov Arts Center. 2011 - 2012 Lead Artist, Commissioning and in-kind production costs for House/Divided Creative Campus Innovations Grant Program, funded by the Doris Duke Charitable Foundation, and the New England Foundation for the Arts’ National Theater pilot with lead funding from The Andrew W. Mellon Foundation. 2011 - 2012 Lead Artist, The Emma A. Sheafer Charitable Trust 2011 - 2012 Lead Artist, Residency support provided by The Performing Garage 2011 - 2012 Lead Artist, Bloomberg Philanthropies 2011 - 2012 Lead Artist, The Rockefeller Mutli-Arts Production Fund 2011 - 2012 Lead Artist, National Endowment for the Arts 2011 - 2012 Lead Artist, The New York City Department of Cultural Affairs 2011 - 2012 Lead Artist, The New York State Council on the Arts 2009 - 2010 Lead Artist, Commissioning and in-kind production support for Continuous City: The Krannert Center for the Performing Arts, University of Illinois; Carolina Performing Arts, Chapel Hill, NC; Department of Theater, Dance and Performance Studies and Arts Research at the University of California, Berkeley, Luminato Festival, Toronto, Waker Arts, Center, Minneapolis; Brooklyn Academy of Music, Wexner Center for the Arts, and the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts, CA. 2009 - 2010 Lead Artist, Carnegie Foundation 2009 - 2010 Lead Artist, The National Endowment for the Arts 2009 - 2010 Lead Artist, Curtis W. McGraw Foundation 2009 - 2010 Lead Artist, New York Council on the Arts 2009 - 2010 Lead Artist, Lila Acheson Wallace Theater Fund 2009 - 2010 Lead Artist, New York City Department of Cultural Affairs 2009 - 2010 Lead Artist, The Andrew W. Mellon Foundation 2007 - 2008 Lead Artist, Commissioning and in-kind production support for Continuous City: from the Art Research Center at U.C. Berkeley 2007 - 2008 Lead Artist, Carnegie Foundation 2007 - 2008 Lead Artist, The National Endowment for the Arts 2007 - 2008 Lead Artist, Curtis W. McGraw Foundation 2007 - 2008 Lead Artist, The Andrew W. Mellon Foundation 2007 - 2008 Lead Artist, The New York State Council on the Arts 2007 - 2008 Lead Artist, Lila Acheson Wallace Theater Fund 2007 - 2008 Lead Artist, New York City Department of Cultural Affairs 2005 - 2006 Lead Artist, National Endowment for the Arts 2005 - 2006 Lead Artist, The Rockefeller Multi-Arts Production Fund 2005 - 2006 Lead Artist, Curtis W. McGraw Foundation 2005 - 2006 Lead Artist, The Andrew W. Mellon Foundation 2005 - 2006 Lead Artist, The New York State Council on the Arts 2005 - 2006 Lead Artist, Altria Group, Inc. 2005 - 2006 Lead Artist, Dramatists Guild Fund 2005 - 2006 Lead Artist, Lucille Lortel Foundation 2005 - 2006 Lead Artist, New York City Department of Cultural Affairs 2005 - 2006 Lead Artist, The New York Times Company Foundation Fund for Midsize Theatres 2005 - 2006 Lead Artist, Commissioning and in-kind production costs for Super Vision provided by: The Wexner Center for the Arts in association with the Advanced Computing Center for the Arts and Design at The Ohio State University; Walker Art Center, Minneapolis, MN; Mondavi Center for the Performing Arts, UC Davis; Liverpool, European Capital of Culture 2008; New Zealand International Arts Festival; BAM Next Wave Festival. 2003 - 2004 Lead Artist, The Daniel Langlois Foundation for Art, Science and Technology 2003 - 2004 Lead Artist, The Greenwall Foundation 2003 - 2004 Lead Artist, Lila Acheson Wallace Theater Fund 2003 - 2004 Lead Artist, The Jerome Foundation 2003 - 2004 Lead Artist, The Curtis W. McGraw Foundation 2003 - 2004 Lead Artist, The National Endowment for the Arts 2003 - 2004 Lead Artist, The New York State Council on the Arts 2003 - 2004 Lead Artist, The Rockefeller Foundation Multi-Arts Production Fund 2003 - 2004 Lead Artist, Commissioning and in-kind production support for Alladeen: Arts International, Barbican BITE:03 (London) Le-Maillon, Strasbourg (France), and Romaeuropa Festival 03 (Rome), The Wexner Center for the Arts, (Columbus).
2000 - 2002 Lead Artist, New York State Councul on the Arts 2000 - 2002 Lead Artist, Jerome Foundation 2000 - 2002 Lead Artist, Microsoft Foundation 2000 - 2002 Lead Artist, The National Endowment for the Arts 2000 - 2002 Lead Artist, The Good Works Foundation 2000 - 2002 Lead Artist, Curtis McGraw Foundation 2000 - 2002 Lead Artist, Rockefeller Foundation Multi-Arts Production Fund 2000 - 2002 Lead Artist, Coproduction support for Alladeen awarded by: Museum of Contemporary Art Chicago, The Walker Art Center, REDCAT (Roy and Edna Disney/CalArts Theater), the MIST Residency Program at The Kitchen, and the British Arts Council. 1998 - 1999 Lead Artist, The Andy Warhol Foundation for the Visual Arts 1998 - 1999 Lead Artist, The Curtis W. McGraw Foundation 1998 - 1999 Lead Artist, Good Works Foundation 1998 - 1999 Lead Artist, Graham Foundation 1998 - 1999 Lead Artist, The Greenwall Foundation 1998 - 1999 Lead Artist, The Jerome Foundation 1998 - 1999 Lead Artist, Microsoft Foundation 1998 - 1999 Lead Artist, The National Endowment for the Arts 1998 - 1999 Lead Artist, The New York State Council On The Arts 1998 - 1999 Lead Artist, Coproduction support awarded by: La Maison des Arts, Creteil; Le Centre Culturel Transfrontalier Le Manege, Maubeuge; Centre of Research for Cultural Development, Nantes; Kulturhus, Aarhus; and Kaaitheater, Brussels. 1996 - 1997 Lead Artist, The Rockefeller Foundation Multi-Arts Production Fund 1996 - 1997 Lead Artist, New York State Council on the Arts 1996 - 1997 Lead Artist, The Greenwall Foundation 1996 - 1997 Lead Artist, Microsoft Foundation 1996 - 1997 Lead Artist, The Andy Warhol Foundation for the Visual Arts 1996 - 1997 Lead Artist, Coproduction support awarded by Theatre Neumarkt - 6 month residency and development of JUMP CUT (FAUST) 1994 - 1995 Lead Artist, Warhol Foundation 1994 - 1995 Lead Artist, The Greenwall Foundation 1994 - 1995 Lead Artist, Tides Foundation 1994 - 1995 Lead Artist, National Endowment for the Arts 1994 - 1995 Lead Artist, Meet The Composer 1994 - 1995 Lead Artist, Creative Time "Citywide", Series 1994 - 1995 Lead Artist, Microsoft Foundation 1994 - 1995 Lead Artist, New York State Council on the Arts
Selected productions as Artistic Director of The Builders Association
See www.thebuildersassociation.org for press, images, and additional materials.
ATLAS DRUGGED (2024)
I AGREE TO THE TERMS (2022)
THE DECAMERON (2020)
STRANGE WINDOW (2019)
ELEMENTS OF OZ
A crossmedia production incorporating augmented reality based on The Wizard of Oz.
Fall 2016 3LD Art&Technology Center
October 2015 Peak Performances, Montclair State University
EMILIE
A contemporary opera by composer Kaija Saariaho based of the life of
Emilie de Chatelet.
2015 Finnish National Opera, Helsinki
2012 Lincoln Center Festival, New York
2011 Spoleto Festival, SC
SONTAG: REBORN
A crossmedia production based on the journals of Susan Sontag,
conceived in collaboration with Moe Angelos, performer.
2014 Arts Emerson, Boston
2013 Seoul International Arts Festival
2013 New York Theater Workshop
2012 Public Theater “Under The Radar” Festival, NY
Workshop rehearsals: 3LD Art and Technology Center
HOUSE/DIVIDED
A crossmedia production interweaving Steinbeck’s The Grapes Of Wrath with the 2008
mortgage crisis.
2014 Arts Emerson, Boston
2013 The Brooklyn Academy of Music Next Wave Festival, New York
2012 World premiere at the Wexner Center For The Arts Columbus, Ohio;
The Krannert Center, University of Illinois, Urbana
Workshop/rehearsals: Wexner Center for the Arts/Creative Campus Fund
CONTINUOUS CITY
A crossmedia production drawn from Italo Calvino’s Invisible Cities. Developed with
collaborating artists in Mexico City, Shanghai, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, and Toronto, as
well as the National Center for Supercomputing.
2011 London International Theater Festival (LIFT)
2010 Copenhagen International Theater Festival
2009 Carolina Performing Arts, Chapel Hill, NC; Wexner Center, Columbus, OH;
Luminato Festival, Toronto
2008 The Brooklyn Academy of Music Next Wave Festival, New York;
The Krannert Center, University of Illinois, Urbana; Walker Art Center, Minneapolis;
Yerba Buena Center for the Arts, San Francisco
Workshop/rehearsals: Developed through a residency at at U.C. Berkeley Department
of Theater, Dance and Performance Studies in collaboraiton with the Center for New
Media,
SUPER VISION
A crossmedia performance developed with the 3d animation studio dbox.
2007 Hopkins Center, Dartmouth College
2006 Perth International Arts Festival, Australia; New Zealand International Arts
Festival; Liverpool European Capital of Culture, U.K.; Tramway, Glasgow, U.K.;
Salamanca International Arts Festival, Spain; ZeroOne Festival for Digital Arts,
San Jose, CA; Yerba Buena Center for the Arts, CA
2005 Walker Center for the Arts, Minneapolis, The Krannert Center, University of
Illinois; MCA Chicago; UC Davis, CA: REDCAT, Los Angeles; Wexner Arts Center,
Columbus; On the Boards, Seattle; The Brooklyn Academy of Music “Next Wave”
Festival
Workshop/Rehearsals: St. Ann’s Warehouse, NYC
INVISIBLE CITIES
A crossmedia installation and performance developed with “at risk” high school students
through the Institute for Collaborative Education and the Brooklyn College Community
Partnerships program.
2007 3LD Art & Technology Center, New York, NY
ALLADEEN
A crossmedia production, website, and music video developed with the South Asian
London-based company moti roti. OBIE award “Best Production” 2003.
2004 The Kennedy Center, Washington D.C.; Melbourne International Arts Festival,
Australia; Bonn Biennale, Germany; Bergen International Festival, Norway; Hopkins
Center, Dartmouth; Festival Iberoamericano de Bogota; On the Boards, Seattle;
REDCAT, Los Angeles
2003 The Brooklyn Academy of Music “Next Wave” Festival, New York; Guggenheim
Museum Works & Process, NYC; Tramway, Glasgow, Scotland; Contact Theatre,
Manchester, U.K.; Warwick Arts Centre, U.K.; Romaeuropa Festival, Italy;
La Ferme du Buisson, Paris, France; Barbican Centre, London, UK; Singapore Arts
Festival, Singapore; Walker Art Center, Minneapolis; Museum of Contemporary Art,
Chicago; Wexner Center for the Arts, Columbus, Ohio.
Workshop/Rehearsals: The Kitchen, NYC
XTRAVAGANZA
A crossmedia production drawing from the lives of multimedia artists working from
1890-1930.
2001 Performing Arts Chicago; The Whitney Museum of American Art
2000 Guggennheim Museum Works & Process; Kaaitheater, Brussels; Rotterdam
Schowburg, Netherlands; Le Volcan, Le Havre, France; Le Maillon, Strasbourg,
France; Mousanturm, Frankfurt
Workshop/Rehearsals: St. Ann’s Warehouse
JET LAG
A crossmedia production based on two true stories about travel, developed with
architects Diller + Scofidio. OBIE award “Best Production” 2000.
2012 Peak Performance Montclair State University (remount)
2000 The Barbican Centre, London; Festival des Ameriques, Montreal; On The Boards,
Seattle; The Kitchen, New York,
1999 Copenhagen International Theater Festival, MASS MoCA (opening production);
Trafo Theater, Budapest, Hungary; Kaaitheater, Brussels; Maison des Arts, Paris; Via
Festival, Maubeuge, France
1998 Fin de Siecle, Nantes, France; Dutch Electronic Arts Festival, Rotterdam;
Kulturhus, Aarhus, Denmark
Workshop/Rehearsals: The Kitchen, NYC
JUMP CUT (FAUST)
A crossmedia production drawn from multiple versions of Faust, written by John
Jesurun.
1998 Kaaitheater, Brussels, Maison des Arts, Paris; National Theater of Brittany,
Rennes, France; Via Festival, Maubeuge, France
1997 Thread Waxing Space, New York; Spiel Art Festival, Munich;
IMPERIAL MOTEL (FAUST)
A crossmedia production developed with the Theater Neumarkt, Zurich, Switzerland.
1996 Created and performed at the Theater Neumarkt, May- November.
MASTER BUILDER
A crossmedia production and installation based on Ibsen’s The Master Builder.
1995 The Storefront for Art and Architecture, NYC
1994 Industrial space, Chelsea, New York City, August - December
DARK VICTORY
An unfinished production developed from 1992-94 with Susan Sontag, Ron Vawter,
and Greg Mehrten. The project was developed in New York and during a Bellagio
Residency but ended with the untimely death of Ron Vawter brought on by AIDS-related
complications.
Roy Cohn/Jack Smith (dramaturg/producer)
A solo performance by Ron Vawter.
1995 Film released under the same title, co-produced by Marianne Weems, James
Schamus, Ted Hope. Executive Producer Jonathan Demme.
1993 ICA, London; Hebbel Theater, Berlin; Weiner Festwochen, Vienna; Felix Meritus,
Amsterdam; Kaaitheater, Brussels
1992 Museum of Contemporary Art, Los Angeles; Wexner Center for the Arts; Walker
Arts Center, Minneapolis
Workshop/Rehearsalas: The Performing Garage, New York
Daughters of the ReVolution
A “panel” performance by the collaborative group The V-Girls.
1996 EA Generali, Vienna; CUNY Graduate Center, NYC
1995 Yale University, New Haven, CT
1994 Duke University, Durham, N.C; Vanderbilt University, Nashville, TN
1993 The Drawing Center, New York; Manhattan Theater Club, “Writers in
Performance”
The Question of Manet's "Olympia": Posed and Skirted
A “panel” performance by the collaborative group The V-Girls.
1992 (Keynote address) Modern Language Association, Chicago; Chicago Art Institute;
Brown University
1991 Philadelphia Museum of Art, PA
1990 Institute for Contemporary Art, London, U.K.; Mayfest, Glasgow, Scotland; The
New Museum, New York
1989 CUNY Graduate Center, New York; New York University; CalArts, CA; College Art
Association Conference, San Francisco, CA; Berkeley Art Museum, University of
California
SELECTED OTHER PROJECTS:
2016 Production consultant and collaborator: The Occupation of Loss, an installation
and performance by Taryn Simon. Park Avenue Armory, New York, Oct 2016,
June 2017 Artange,l London.
2006-2009 Dramaturg: Here Lies Love, a theatrical music event with David Byrne and
Fatboy Slim. Work-in-progress showings: Carnegie Hall 2007, Adelaide Festival 2006.
2004-2007 The Presence Project – a joint project between Michael Shanks at Stanford
University and Nick Kaye, Exeter University (U.K.) tracking seven international artists
over the past five years. The Presence Project combined academic expertise from
performance theory, computer science, and anthropological archaeology to “investigate
means by which “presence” is achieved and to deepen an understanding of the
performance of presence.
2006 Disney Creative Entertainment and Walt Disney Imagineering – Workshop
rehearsal and demonstration in a CAVE (computer animated virtual environment)
The Builders Association: Performance and Media in Contemporary Theater (MIT Press Fall 2015)
Co-authored with Prof. Shannon Jackson
Art Matters: How The Culture Wars Changed America (NYU Press 2000)
Co-edited with Brian Wallis and Philip Yenawine
Biographies or Retrospectives 2021 Book Chapter: "Digital Theatre": The Making and Meaning of Live Mediated Performance, US & UK 1990-2020", Nadja Masura, Pagrave Macmillan (Oct 21 2021) INVITED * 2020 Feature Article : Artforum, "Perfect Stranger",
Jess Barbagallo on the Pomodori Foundation’s Queer and Alone (1993) (Dec 4 2020) INVITED * 2019 Book Chapter: "The Twenty-First Century Performance Reader", Edited by Anna Fenemore, Noel Witts, Teresa Brayshaw, Routledge (Jul 23 2019) INVITED * 2017 Book Chapter: "Theatre, Social Media, and Meaning Making", Bree Hadley, Springer International Publishing (Sep 30 2017) INVITED * 2017 Interview: American Theatre, "How Do You Solve a Problem Like Documentary Theatre?", Amelia Parenteau (Sep 2017) * 2017 Acquisition : Acquisition of my archive by The New York Public Library for the Performing Art (Winter 2017) INVITED 2012 Journal Article : "Steinbeck Today", Kathleen Hicks, Penn State University Press (Fall 2012) INVITED 2012 Interview: The Drama Review, "Building the Builders Association: A Conversation with Marianne Weems, James Gibbs, and Moe Angelos", Richard Schechner INVITED 2012 Journal Article : "Entr'acte", Jordan Geiger, The MIT Press INVITED 2011 Book Chapter: "Multimedia Performance", Rosemary Klich, Red Globle Press (Dec 2 2011) 2011 Book Chapter: "Théorie et Practique du Theatre", Josette Feral, Entretemps Ed; L'entretemps (Sep 11 2011) INVITED 2011 Book Chapter: "Cyborg Theatre - Corporeal/Technological Intersections in Multimedia Performance", Jennifer Parker-Starbuck, Palgrave Macmillan (Apr 28 2011) INVITED 2010 Book Chapter: "Making Contemporary Theatre: International Rehearsal Processes", Andy Lavender (book chapter), Manchester University Press (Sep 15 2010) INVITED 2010 Book Chapter: "Mapping Intermediality in Performance", Rosie Klich (author of chapter), Amsterdam University Press INVITED 2010 Book Chapter: "Espace(s) Littérature et création", "La Fabrique de la Memoire" (chapter title), Corine Pencenat INVITED 2009 Feature Article : Interview Magizine, "The Builders Association", Louise Neri (Dec 2009) INVITED 2009 Feature Article : Newsweek, "Wired Connections", Vibhuti Patel (Jun 2009) INVITED 2009 Journal Article : "Found Images and Networked Americas in the Builders Association's Alladeen", Leslie Atkins Durham, Theatre Journal, The Johns Hopkins University Press INVITED 2008 Feature Article : American Theatre, "Electronic Fires", Randy Gener (Dec 2008) INVITED 2007 Book Chapter: "Staging the Screen", Chapter 6, "Live Films on Stage: The Builders Association", Greg Giesekam (Nov 19 2007) INVITED 2007 Book Chapter: "Digital Performance - A History of New Media in Theater, Dance, Performance Art, and Installation", Steve Dixon, MIT Press (Feb 2007) INVITED 2006 Interview: Performing Arts Journal, "Mediaturgy", Bonnie Marranca (Dec 18 2006) INVITED 2006 Journal Article : "Data Bodies and the Awesome Apparatus of Technology", Maurya Wickstrom, Journal of Performance and Art, The MIT Press (May 2006) INVITED 2004 Feature Article: Los Angeles Times, Feature Article (Sunday Paper; Calendar) (Feb 29 2004) INVITED 2004 Interview: Howl Round Interview with Stila Nayak INVITED 1989 Journal Article : "The V-Girls: A Conversation with October", October Magazine, The MIT Press (Winter 1989) INVITED
